As an optional activity on the Fall 2005 final exam, I
asked students to fill out a quick survey with just one question: "Please tell
next term's students your best advice for how to succeed in BA271." This page
contains every response -- I didn't edit them at all. Thus, this page contains
the unvarnished thoughts of your colleagues, spelling bloopers and all.
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Don't fall behind on your work. It builds on itself.
And GO TO CLASS yes that is very important. Asking questions also very
important. Emailing the instructor a lot, very important.
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The only advice I can give is to practice, practice,
practice!
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You will have to spend a lot of extra time in the
computer lab learning all the different programs and techniques.
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Go to class! Both the lecture and the lab. Do all the
tutorials that are suggested. Do all the homework. Do these things and
you'll have no problems whatsoever.
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The best way to exceed in BA271 is to listen carefully
to the instructions in class and spend some time practicing the assignments.
The more time you can spend practicing the better- especially when writing
queries.
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My advice to students coming into this class would be
to always do your assignments by yourself. This is important because when
you have a midterm or final you already know how to accomplish the test
because you yourself covered all the material.
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The best way to succeed in this class would be to take
your time with your assignments and go to all of the classes. My advice
would be to do your assignments on two different days so that you can check
your work and make sure that everything works.
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Go to all the lectures. Do the practice problems. The
videos are quick and easy to watch. Setup your computer at home to do the
work.
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Go to the lab and do the assignments. I didn't learn
that much during the lecture and the recitations. Just do the assignments
and spent time practicing!!!
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Don't get frustrated. If you think about the question
being asked it's actually quite simple.
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BA 271 Really is not a hard class if you attend the
labs, and do the practice exercises. Its always good to study them a few
times and do different practice quizes or exams so you know what to do as
Mr. Sullivan covers a wide variety of items in his assignments. Overall Not
A hard class, just hard to work with the programs at first. Once you get the
hang of it its pretty self explanitory!
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I would study all of the on-line examples that he gives
you for your tests and make sure you know how to do all of the things that
are covered well, and without the use of a book. using the book on the exam
is difficult and time comsuming. Good luck
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Do all of the assignments and make sure that you
understand them. Also, before the exams (query quiz, midterm, and final) do
all of the practice exams and practice quizzes he gives you, trust me they
help. Go and ask Dr.Sullivan if you ever need help, and go to the help
sessions.
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Go To Class
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Do the tutorials before you do the assignments. It
helps a lot. Oh, and go to class. It's impossible otherwise.
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Do all the work, and go to all the classes or you will
miss a detail
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Make sure you get started on the assignments
early--especially the Access assignments. It takes a lot longer than you
would expect because you may run into some problems that you didn't run into
in class.
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I found it really helpful to do the tutorials before
trying to complete the assignments. You do not want to put things off until
the last minute in this class. It is really imortant to attend the hands on
class time, they help alot.
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I would strongly recommend attending the labs and doing
the assignments - you really will be tested on what you learn. Also, take
advantage of the help sessions, especially in the Access portion of the
class. The book can be misleading at times, and it helps to have a human
available to clarify instructions. Last, take notes! Since your tests are
all open book, having good notes will save you a lot of headaches. Good
luck!
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The class is a lot easier if you keep up with it, and
do not fall behind. When Dave Sullivan recommends an additional exercise, do
it! It will help you tremendously.
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Practice, practice, practice. Access is something that
needs to be practiced over and over. Also, ask questions whenever you can,
it will really help you in the end.
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I highly recommend you do the practice exams and
problems. Dont try to get creative in this class...creativity is not welcome
in this course, it is dry and boring.
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I think to be successsful in this class you need to
attend all the computer lab lectures and complete all the assignments.
Definitley take advantage of the help session, it is at this time when you
can have all of your questions answered. Completing the Assignements is
vital to your test grades because the Tests are just like the HW so if you
know how to do the HW properly you will have no problem with the tests.
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This course is as easy as can be, but it requires your
full commitment. Pay attention during labs because you'll get vital
information in getting your assignments done. If instructions seem vague,
Dr. Sullivan is always there to assist you.
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Know the material, know how to build queries, and use
the examples provided. Use common sense and a little creativity, and you'll
succeed just fine.
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Don't miss the Access lectures. It is extremely
difficult to figure Access out on your own if you miss class. Plain and
simple.
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Make sure to study hard for the query parts of the
course, and make especially sure you have the right number of tables with
the right names in your queries.
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Go to all of the classes, including the evening
lectures.
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I found it extremely helpful to go to all the lab
sessions.
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Don't be cocky if BA131 was a breeze, Access is an new
program that takes much more practice to get good at.
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Go to class and do the work. I know it's tough to go to
a 6:00 lecture every week but suck it up and be there. It does wonders for
the brain.
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My best advice would be to attend all the lab sessions.
They help you better understand the actual hands on portion of the
activities.
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Make sure that you take this class sersiously!!! Just
because it is a 200 level class and you may have taken some easier 300 level
classes, you will need to devote more time to this class to get the "A"
grade we all crave than just about any other course at this university. You
will learn alot or becoming frustrated and suicidal, possibly both!! Good
Luck and I'm Rootin' for ya!!!
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Don't slack off and think you can get this stuff
without studying.
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I think that this class is not easy to take but that
doesnt'mean that I hate this class..I learned a lot from this class about
making website and deling with access program..
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However, you need to practice a lot for this class
exams..I think homeworks help a lot..so just try to do as many times you can
do..
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Make sure to got to the Computer Lab lectures each
week. These really help you when you're figuring out how to do the
assignments. Also, don't put off doing them until the last minute, try
working on them over the space of a few days to give your brain a break.
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Stop and ask the instructor questions. You are not
stupid to do this, what you are doing by asking questions is learning and
also helping others to learn. Other students are wanting to know the same
information, but they are too shy to inquire.
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Take some time and make notes of the odd little things
along the way especially in Access, instead of zoning out on the monitor
during lecture. Bring these to the final, then if you forget you won't be
digging through the book.
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Best Advice to succeeed in BA271 is to do the online
practices. After working through those going into a quiz or an exam is a
breeze because you have practiced. Also, if possible work on the assignments
as soon as you can after you have the lab because then it is all fresh in
your mind.
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Be prepared for the exams, especially queries.
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Go to class and do the homework yourself. Follow along
in lab sessions and listen carefully.
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Practice all of the skills so that they come naturally
and stay on top of your assignments.
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Access is hard and complicated but gets easy with
practice, which is what this course is focused on; practicing your computer
skills. I hear many complaints from my other classmates that you have to be
an expert to pass this course and the professor goes too fast. I don't
believe this is true...What we were taught was definently reasonable and we
should be doing what is expected out of us. The best way to pass the course
is to practice with the software a few good times, get a clear understanding
of how it works, or shall we say behaves...especially with Access
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Practice Querying at least twice a week during the
Access weeks of the class.
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If you want to do good in the class, then all you have
to do are the obvious things. Don't skip class. Go to the 6pm lecture. Do
the assignments, and don't feel bad about calling Sullivan on his mistakes.
Otherwise, it should be pretty simple.
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Basically don't miss class and you need to watch out
when access comes up. I had a good grade going into Access but access is a
hard program to learn. Even when you study on the test there could be a
function you haven't seen before and your screwed. It's hard to make sure
you are prepared for anything, so you just have to hope dave asks questions
similar or identical to the homework... good luck
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The best advice I can offer is to keep your attendance
high, especially when doing Access Tutorials, it will save you a lot of time
when doing the assignments. Also, ask questions and seek help. The first
half of the course may be too easy for some, but it picks up in the second
half and doesn't let go, work hard to master your skills at building and
editing queries. Be sure to study for both the query exam, and if you do
well on that, practice reports for the Final. All in all, hands-on
attendance and practice are the most beneficial in my opinion. The only way
to study is to practice and learn through trial and error. There's nothing
you can really memorize or regurgitate, but if you sucessfully create what's
being asked in class or for homework, you should do fine on the quiz,
midterm, and final. Also, something I wish I would have done was take
advantage of the optional activites like the fluffy compititon and the
online book assignment. After taking the final, I already wish I had some of
those bonus points to level out my disaster on the Reports section of the
Final. That's about all I can say, or offer, as far as advice goes. Other
than that, good luck!
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The Query Quiz can be brutal, so be ready for it.
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Go to the help sessions on Thursday, even if you dont
have questions it is good to make sure you get your assignments done on
time.
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PRACTICE QUERIES!!!!!!!!!!!! Trust me...its a
difference between night and day!
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This course is much like studying a language or a
musical instrument. Take it out every day and use it, practice it! I would
have done much better if I had set aside more pockets of time to accomplish
this goal.
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When it comes to Access, be careful, check your work,
and make sure you really understand how things work in the program!
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I guess the one piece of advice I would give is that
practice make perfect. All the midterms and quizzes are exactly like prior
quarter's exams, so if you can perform well on those exams you should have
no problem on the actual exams.
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I guess the one piece of advice I would give is that
practice make perfect. All the midterms and quizzes are exactly like prior
quarter's exams, so if you can perform well on those exams you should have
no problem on the actual exams.
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Do All Homework Twice.
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While attending the lecture and help sessions is
important, the best advice I can give is to practice practice practice! The
best way to succeed in this class is to spend some time in the computer lab
every week going over the key concepts that were covered. Prof. Sullivan has
provided a wide array of resources to assist students in understanding the
material, and if you use these resources (say by completing the exams given
in other terms) you will have gained sufficient experience to succeed in
this course.
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This is a great class that will teach you the skills
you need in the future. One very helpful tool is the video clips that Mr.
Sullivan records. Watch as many of these as you can. Good luck and remember
that you are not learning these skills to pass the class but to be
successful in the business world.
